‘EXCLUSIVE’ BREAKING NEWS: BC Conservative Board Will Oust One “Dissident” Member at a Time
The BC Conservative board met on Thursday night last, to commiserate over the growing revolt against their feckless and mortally wounded leader John Cummins.
After receiving legal advice, that ousting the “dissidents” en masse, en bloc would result in those expulsions not standing up in court, a decision was made to attack each member in question on a “case by case” basis. In other words, there will be immediate efforts to expel from the party each individual member, who democratically expressed themselves with respect to John Cummins failed leadership. A case will be built using evidence compiled by the party–led by their mean-spirited President Al Siebring.
Over the weekend, the party board and designated hatchet men–who will be doing all the dirty work, are concocting “just cause” to eliminate people like Dr. Allison Patton from Surrey, Mr. Ian Piper of Victoria and others.
The principled, level-headed people that wish to rid the party of this rabid, hurtful, vicious ‘God Squad’ that has a death grip on the pary, are expecting to be served with legal papers the week of October 15th.
No word, yet, on if John Cummins plans to make a statement on the recent bullying events that led to the death of an innocent…
That would be a little rich, don’t you think?
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An interesting footnote: Ian Piper, a chap with unimpeachable integrity and unshakable community respect, is the one who put up the original $10,000 so that John Cummins could run for leader.
And now Mr. Piper has turned on John Cummins.
Can’t imagine why…
Could be very sticky. Don’t know what their constitution says, but if a member is thrown out, it would have to be something specifically evidenced against a section or sections of the Constitution that warrants it. Such as Insolence against a leader wouldn’t be grounds for explusion.
Members take a membership to support the principles of the party, not specifically any one leader.
If they go any further it will most certainly make things worse for them than they already are.
They are already slipping as it is.
Very dangerous ground they are walking into.
It is a democracy, not a totalitarian benevolent dictatorship.
and what is the real balance on their books? Sooner or later we will know because an audited report has to be filed with Elections BC.
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Correct on all counts.
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i know some of the people who come here all the time may not appreciate this
but boy oh boy do i find it ironic that people constantly post here about the “socialist hordes” installing brother dix as supreme and un-questioned leader….really? after this gong show with Cummins?
dont get me wrong, im am under no illusion that ANY of the political parties we have in BC have moral highground to stand on….some just seem to be going for world records on how low they can get…… my money is still on the liberals on that one though.
i saw a poll today in one of the papers about who would be the best premeir for BC.. first place was dix, fourth was CC… second was none of the above and third was undecided……
what a truly sad state of affairs our political parties in BC are. a confessed forger is by FAR the best option for leader.
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my bad … it was
dix in first
not sure at 26%
none of these at 22%
Christy Clark at 14%
wow christy… not sure is leading you in the polls almost 2 to 1!
imagine if the undecided got together and formed a united party… they would lead CC by a 3 to 1 margin…..LOL
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Public+support+Conservatives+leader+John+Cummins+dropping+poll/7384619/story.html
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I’m not sure how my formatting will show up, so the pdf can be downloaded from:
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/47101/conservatives-drop-new-democrats-improve-in-british-columbia/
Sept Oct
Adrian Dix 28% 30% +2
Christy Clark 15% 14% -1
John Cummins 9% 6% -3
Jane Sterk 3% 2% -1
None of these 19% 22% +3
Not sure 24% 26% +2
Looks to me like the biggest loser is Cummins, the biggest winner is “None of these”.
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None of these sounds like a good candidate right now.
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Sterk is doing better than expected!
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I would like to officially announce my candidacy for the Premier of British Columbia!
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whiterockj, you’re absolutely right, but look at North Korea.
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ok bob.. i will bite…
what does a country that had a communist revolution/civil war have to do with a social-democratic party being legally elected to a 4 year term under a democracy in a province in Canada.
ummm sorry….. i just dont see many similarities between the province of BC and the country of North Korea.
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They both have idiots for leaders?
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So I assume by election day next May they should have reached the last member?
Planning like that only comes from good leadership.
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They are finished and Cummings will be an anchor worse that CC ensuring the death of the party
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so there going to “gang” up on one member at a time , sounds like intimidation to me , or bullying.
well don’t hold your breath waiting for crispy to enact legislation, that would mean going to work at a job she is woefully unqualified to do .
As for members of the media calling you a bully , they simply fear the truth that you present. Even though I may be a few degrees left of center, I don’t have to live in fear of the truth.
Alex ,as long as I’ve been reading your colums ,you have been as honest ,as the day is long and I’ll continue to do so. Ive had very sketchy internet signal for the last 2 months, but its back ,and so am I
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“Ian Piper, a chap with unimpeachable integrity and unshakable community respect, is the one who put up the original $10,000 so that John Cummins could run for leader.”
Jeez, talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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Yes! And, biting the hand that feeds you!
Cummins has a huge pension – he could have easily paid the $10,000 himself – instead, he got Piper to pay his way, and then screwed him.
What a mooch!
In fact, this is way beyond your basic mooch!
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Actually Mary Shelley I am not, but we need her now! It is like her novel with some minor changes has been played in real life in our time. Thanx to Mr. AGT! He reminded us of Mr. Piper creating with $10K the monster who is turning now on him!
Especially relevant when today’s beast dreams to create a deputy-”urban female”-leader (remember when the original monster was demanding from his creator Dr. Frankenstein to produce a female for him?).
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Well, he is Herman Munster.
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Alex , I could be wrong on this but Didn’t Herman M. have a brain?
As for crissy and her slime ball club their all toast after using Amanda to puff there own worthless souls up.
Bullies ,including crissy and party should all be immortalized on every school wall in what ever town , city they are active in. They bully for attention so give it to them.
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Herman Munster not only had a brain, he had a heart, too. He was bloody wonderful.
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Anyone old enough to remember the “Bride of Frankenstein” is too old to have any say on such a contemporary blog such as this is. I believe she was played by Elsa Lancaster who was married to a great actor who was also not a real man, but I will surely get myself in a quagmire of controversy that will have outraged townspeople coming out to get me with pitchforks and torches.
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Pardonez moi – Make that Lanchester!
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There is no “just cause” language in the Party constitution, only “just reason”. Alex, you tell me how it is that a democratic party, financed by tax deductible donations, can permit its’ Board and Leader to expel members for what amounts to fair criticism and a request for his resignation.
Think of it. John Cummins is about to jettison over 20 CAs. The party could face the real possibility of having CAs go into suspension with Elections BC. That means at least 30 days notice required for an AGM notice to be issued.
If the full CA executives follow, that means potentially 80 members will be gone. Who is going to replace us? Who wants to assume those offices knowing that if you dare speak your mind you will be subject to bullying, intimidation, venomous emails, Twitter Facebook and other social media abuse. The behind the scenes treatment by some on this Board of the women who support this movement has been vile, hateful, misogynistic, and vengeful. I have read emails that there is not one excuse for. And Christy thinks she has lost the female vote? Guess again.
And to those who think the Leader won a fair and democratic vote, ask yourself why John Cummins refused to hold up his end of the bargain he made with senior members and resign if he had less than 75%?
The Board appointed interim Regional Directors in regions that did not duly elect their new Regional Director by vote of a majority of CA Presidents in the 45 days prior to the AGM on September 22. But even a duly elected Regional Director was expelled and replaced with an interim one.
Mr Forest, I trust you will enjoy the finer points and subtle nuances of the party constitution that permits the Board to find worthy and “just reason” to revoke memberships.
2.11. The Party discipline, membership refusal and appeal procedures are as follows:
(a) All cases warranting Party discipline or membership refusal may be dealt with by the Board of Directors of the CA in which the person in question resides.
(b) The CA Board of Directors must give opportunity for a full hearing. All votes to impose discipline must be by a secret ballot and will require a two-thirds (2/3) majority vote of the entire Board to pass.
(c) Any person who is refused membership by a decision of a CA Board of Directors and any member affected by a decision of a CA Board of Directors regarding Party discipline, may appeal the decision to the Provincial Board of Directors.
(d) When there is no recognized CA in the Constituency where the person in question resides then the case shall be dealt with in the first instance by the Provincial Board of Directors without a right of further appeal.
(e) All votes to impose discipline will require a two-thirds (2/3) majority vote of either the entire CA Board of Directors and/or the entire Provincial Board of Directors.
(f) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Article 2.11, the Provincial Board of Directors may refuse membership to any person or deal in the first instance with the discipline of any member, including censure, punitive measures or the revoking of any person’s membership for just reason. Any such decision will require a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the entire Provincial Board of Directors.
Please note the correction of spelling of Mr Pyper’s name: Ian G Pyper.
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My apologies. I was aware of his name, which I’ve spelled before and yet allowed myself to be bullied by spellchecker!!! LOL!
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This whole thing just gets Wilder, doesn’t it?
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Interesting. The focus is “just reason” which is open-ended. What exactly constitutes a “a just reason” as noted in 2.11 (f)? A 2/3 vote. Is this a secret vote which I gather it would be.
This can easily get messy. Has any of these Conservatives figured that the dissidents are doing what they are because of their concern over the party’s future? Some of these dissidents (I know of one in particular who has), have been around politics for longer than this reincarnation of the BC Tories has existed. They are the people you want as they know what to do. Even Ham Marshall knew his way around a political party.
Saw the same thing in Social Credit, but it never got this bad. There were blindly loyal Zalmoids (but rest assured they were the headcases that caused headaches at the CA level).
Also there is a bit of a conflict as Christine Clark is both Candidate and a member of the Executive. The Executive usually sets the path in motion to the mechanics of where the party goes in an election, and this ultimately affects the candidates, so Clark (as in Christine not Christy Crunch) should not be on the Executive in my mind. She has an advantage of party business that the other Conservative candidates would not have.
Also noted that our fearless conservative Rumbling Ryan isn’t on the new Executive. Did he get bumped off or was his Director at Large post made redundant?
As far as Regional Directors go, that’s an interesting point. Christy Crunch and her minions promised renewal of the party which would lead to the Constituencies being able to participate in elections for Regional Director for their collective area. Did not happen. But too late for that anyway.
Cummis is not being smart. You simply do not dump off your Constituency Association Executive because of differences or insolence. You want to retain them, work things out. Basic management.
As mentioned, it’s not a totalitarian benevolent dictatorship.It’s supposed to be a democracy.
They will be hard to replace especially with Cummins and the BCC at 16%. That 20% in the polls means nothing other than history.
Cummins is simply not being smart, he simply cannot afford to lose anyone or receive negative publicity at this stage.
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The problem Cummins has is that the naysayers are on the side of right. Cummins’ leadership has clearly jumped the shark. He’s sitting there fiddling while all around him burns.
Perhaps at this point he should remember that it took Rome several decades to rebuild…
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As of today’s date JC has formed a “Unity Committee”to deal with this problem, according to Siebring’s email. Case solved from heavens gate side. I requested an open online vote to make certain that all the dissidents were found and tarred.
A quote from the email shows exactly how serious they are to keep the nails away.
” That’s why we’ve formed a “Unity Committee”, which will be mandated to try to heal
the divisions in our Party by finding ways to engage our members and CA Boards,
and to improve communications. The Committee will be chaired by Director Daniel
Brooks and include Vice-President Christine Clarke and Director Dennis Belliveau,
who has considerable experience as a mediator in his professional life.
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Sounds more like “just because”
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“Just reason” could be litigable or litigatable as well as litigious but such diction also speaks to a questionable or too-hasty drafting job. A judge might want to know the creation and evolution of that rule – if anyone could afford to litigate such things.
More generally the courts do not like arbiting political disputes, especially partisan ones, so the prevailing notion is that golf clubs and women’s groups and political parties have inherent rights to discriminate in their own membership decisions – so proving that the Cummins side lacked a “just” reason to evict some members could be difficult to do in court and especially to do so quickly (the long waits in the court houses being another false economy left by Campbell).
But it seems to be becoming a no-win situation….
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This is beginning to sound like two bald men fighting over a comb. The “Conservative” brand label is hardly a big draw in BC and may even be a net liability given the legions of Harper haters. What people are looking for is the “Not-Christy” party. Given that the god squad has destroyed the residual value of the Conservative brand, why not just let them keep it. Start fresh with a party that sane people can support rather than fight to ride on a dying horse.
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There isn’t any formal connection to the federal Conservaties to the BC Conservatives so don’t know why there that perception other than the Conservative label. The two have not been constitutionally together since the mid 1980s. There are members in both, but the majority of federal Conservatives in BC are not members of the BC Provincial Tories.
It will end up as “here take it, it’s yours, knock yourself out” for those in the BC Conservatives from those who leave.
There isn’t much time to formulate a credible solid alternative, and the problem with that is that it will just further split the vote based on current polling percentages, so what happens? The NDP gets in as government which they will anyway, it’s just now how many seats they get.
At this stage, let it go, the NDP gets in, and the conservatives who actially want to start a party can take their time and do it right before the next election in 2017. The BC Liberals will try to re-invent themselves, but I doubt that would go anywhere other than the same direction that Social Credit did after 1991.
Take the time to do it right. Don’t rely those who figure they deserve to be power and influence (any idiot can write a cheque, and say “this is who we want”), I know these guys want to be the power players, butthey will be needed for fundraising, not deciding amongst themsevles who should be leader – that’s decided by the membership.Rely mostly on those who have the experience to organize and run things, to teach those who are new, come up with new marketing for new memberships Seek out the citizen voters you want to become members..
There’s a big opportunity for a new robust party that people will actually want to join and become a part of. And most importantly, the party apparatchik will encourge people to volunteer to the best of their abilities and manage smartky and not use stifling micromanaging.
I may be thinking something along the lines of how the late 1970s to mid 1980s BC Social Credit Party was run at the riding level here, but back then it was alot more interesting to be a part of than this stupid BC Liberal Party, and the God Squad BC Conservative Party.
Let the citizens have the NDP if that’s what they want.
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The NDP are clearly what they want. The notion of a vote split is long over.
A significant portion of independents and women left the BC Liberals and are backing the BC NDP to the hilt.
It’s over.
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While the NDP is likely to win, so many x-factors can still come into play that we don’t know about yet, particularly during the May campaign.
Alot of the NDP support is soft and a “change of government” vote, not necessarily a pro-NDP vote.
Prior to the 2001 election, the Liberals were polling as high as 72%. They ultimately realized 58% in the May, 2001 election. OTOH, the NDP hasn’t really been able to crack the 50% polling level to date.
Mustel, which has been polling BC public opinion for for over 20 years, had these results from a couple of weeks ago:
NDP: 45%
Liberal: 32%
BCCP: 18%
Green: 4%
As a matter of fact, prior to the May, 2009 election, Mustel had similar but reversed figures:
Liberal:45%
NDP: 32%
Green: 18%
BCCP: 4%
On election day the soft Green vote collaped into the NDP bringing them from 32% to 42% (within 4% of the Liberals) with the Greens going down to 8% .
Alot of that current soft BCCP vote could also potenially collapse into the Liberals with that same dynamic bringing them up from 32% to 42% right off the bat, along with many other x-factors.
I’ve seen enough bizarre reverses in opinion polls over the past 30 years to know that a week can be an eternity in politics.
And the BC NDP hasn’t been publicly scrutinized in their policies yet from potentially changing the labour code to remove secret balloting in union certifications, to their financial spending intentions which could add up to $billions more annually.
Again, still looks like an NDP win right now but caveat emptor.
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You’re making assumptions anchored in sand.
The ONLY way the center right has a prayer is if Christy and Cummins are gone and a new party emerges under solid leadership. Even then, Adrian would have to make major gaffes during a campaign.
Ain’t gonna happen.
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Complete agreement. Also with the analysis of the Liberals being at 72%, that was a consequence of the goverment of the day heading towards a major defeat. It really had not much to do with the BC Liberals as being BC Liberals. The same thing holds true now with the BC Liberals. It’s not an aspect of people actually favouring the NDP in terms of policy content (which 80% is unknown right now).
As for Adrian, complete agreement. He would have to do, or some of his major stickhandlers would have to do something incredibly dumb
to wipe out the gains made. He’s not that stupid and internally I am sure there is a firm hand on his caucus to prevent stupid things from coming out.
I don’t take any one poll source as Gospel, but rather look for average linear patterns. There’s variations in Mustel and Angus Reid, so a better analysis is to look for three to four period poll trends, compare the two lineages and see what is in front of your nose.
Also not factored in is voter turnout. People may decide to stay home
and tend garden than tramp to the polls to try and save the BC Liberals from oblivion.
Right now based on the polls, the BC Liberals will barely make it past 10 seats, if that.
They will be damb lucky if they make it past 8.
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The mark of Zorro, Brad? Mustel’s numbers are outside the range found by other pollsters but that could be explained by a different sampling zone maybe more focussed on upper-income households, however as Brad correctly notes the best comparison for Mustel findings is previous Mustel findings and therein is a fascinating stand-back big-picture look at the remarkably volatile shift in B.C. partisan support in the last year or two – the emergence of the BCCP. But since that poll the party has imploded….
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I have participated in online polls forwarded to me by Mustel, Angus Reid, Harris Decima and Ipsos I-Say on both provincial and federal politics in the past and usually answered that I would vote for an independent or other, if the choice is available, or pick a party if the only options are the usual four parties listed. I guess those of us that choose to not support a named political party eventually get blacklisted and not invited to participate in future polls of this type. Although I still get to participate in polls from these pollsters on other subjects, the only thing even close to a political bent that I have received is a couple of polls regarding the Northern Gateway Pipeline.
The other thing that seems questionable is to assume that a voter that has soured on one political party will automatically shift his/her vote to a party that is considered closest in platforms/ideologies. If that were true then the Green Party should have been able to elect at least one MLA in the 2001 provincial election. The Greens got bupkis so where did the disaffected NDP voters go? I suspect some went to the other parties or independent candidates, showed up and spoiled their ballot or just sat that particular dance out.
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“The NDP are clearly what they want”
i would disagree with that statement alex. i would think it more accurate to say the that is what people are willing to accept to get rid of the current version of the liberals.
i would also suggest that if you looked at what the liberals claimed they represented when they first took power… that is what the majority of people in BC want. sadly what the liberals claimed and what they delivered were massively different things.
imho the NDP have 4 years to prove they can deliver a government that address the majority of the peoples current major issues…. but i doubt that will be possible with the economic disaster the liberals are about to leave for them.
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No way will a majority of the Conservatives vote Liberal. No, something was done to damage their confidence in the Liberal party. ( I think the main reason is Christy Clark).
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You think correctly!!!
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Don’t leave Gordon Campbell, Coleman, Falcon, Bond, the rest of cabinet and all the Liberal MLA’s who sat and let this happen over more than 10 years out of the equation.
You’re probably correct, however, Christy Clark has done nothing, but made things much, much worse!
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Good plan. Cummins must have ben advised by the Captain of the Titanic
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i doubt he takes advice from CC
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The whole Cummins/Conservative Party business is just some old, same old, etc. Nothing is going to change, time to move on & let Cummins & his crew just go their way. For those who are true Conservatives perhaps another party simply called, The New Conservative B.C. Party might be in order. They could simply adopt the values of what we used to know as Progressive Conservatives & get one with having a party which has something to offer the voters of B.C. & have some people with integrity join it.
I of course as a leftie won’t be joining, but it is necessary for those who do not see the left as an alternative, to have a place to go & exercise their democratic rights.
I am not too impressed by the suggestion they “expell” those from the b.C. Conservative party if they don’t agree with “dear leader”. Doesn’t sound all that demoncratic to me. I of course do have some concerns given that political parties in Canada benefit from tax exemptions. If these political parties aren’t going to play on a level/fair democratic playing field, I really don’t believe they should be entitled to have the monies given to them be declared tax exempt.
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“Progressive Conservative” is a complete contradiction. There never has and never will be any thing progressive about the Conservatives either provinicialy or federaly as they are the same people.
The federal group are just as nasty and idiotic with their current stands on the coast guard closure. the pipe line and yes even the shark fin soup issue as displayed by that Harper bobble head Alice Wong.
What a joke that woman is!
Its hard to believe that the so called revolution in the provincial PCs is not the work of the likes of people like Phil Hucksterstein and the humongous hulk Richy ten chins Coleman who are both on record for saying that ” they will never allow the right wing vote to be split.
That pic of Ms Patton with Cark and Falcon at beans and gas event should be ample evidence of whats going on here.
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1) Progressive Conservative is NOT at all a contradiction. I am one. That you claim there never has been one and that there is nothing progressive about Conservatives is total nonsense. It belies the facts: Canada’s most successful modern day Prime Minister was a true progressive conservative. Brian Mulroney, for all his faults, delivered an economic plan–which included significant social funding, that the Liberals, after him, used to great effect. Translation: It was the actions of a Progressive Conservative party that delivered Canada it’s greatest prosperity. The current iteration in power, is nothing like what we were back then.
2) The party currently dying provincially and the federal behemoth, have nothing to do with one another. The current provincial Neanderthals consider Stephen Harper a turncoat. He’s nowhere as conservative as them and they hate that.
3) The shark fin soup matter is not conservative policy. That’s Alice Wong playing to her constituents. Although, I will agree on the pipeline and the Coast Guard station: The former should not go forward and the latter must remain open.
4) That you believe the wailing int he blogosphere about a BC Liberal infiltration of the BC Conservatives has me worried about your well being. When you wrote that, had you consumed too much cold medication? This is urban myth and not possibly anchored in reality. None of the people who have lost faith in Cummins and are organizing against him will return to the corrupt BC Liberals. Besler was a one off and Martin wasn’t an organizer of a revolt.
5) The picture of Dr. Patton with Kevin Falcon and Christy Clark was a requested picture–AND NOT BY DR. PATTON. What’s the big deal? I have lots of pictures with Kevin Falcon. I’ve known him almost as long as Dr. Patton has. Do you get it now?
Probably not…
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regarding the speculation that “liberals” have infiltrated the BCCP and are trying to destroy the party…. get a grip people!!!
CC is currently polling at 14% and is dragging her party down to almost certain defeat next may. the party is so completely desperate that they are now recruiting people that a very few months ago were in the local media smashing the liberal party in the teeth over Basi/virk, BC rail, LDB sale and various other issues that point to corruption/incompetence and a profound lack of leadership morally or ethically.
are their people who voted liberal in the past now in positions in the BCCP… OF COURSE THEIR IS. the majority of the party is most likely now formed from people who became so disgusted with the liberals that they joined a party who essentially did not exist two years ago.
these are growing pains as the BCCP tries to decide as a group what they stand for as the party membership has changed very drastically in the last year. is it really surprising that some of the membership is uncomfortable with Cummins as leader when he makes statements that are alienating large segments of the population in bc?
is it shocking that when 86% of the province think CC is not a capable leader, the majority think the liberal party is untrustworthy and the BCCP is falling in the polls against said party who is headed for a massive defeat that some of its members are looking at the leader as the cause?
at this point it really does not matter who is right or wrong within the BCCP, Cummins has to go or the party will go back to complete irrelevance….but maybe thats where they belong with the current leadership they have shown.
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Brilliant! A suoerb assessment.
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Some of my best friends have been red Tories . . .
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I agree (for the most part) Mr. Tsakumis , but what can you expect from the Regressive Left?
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Complete agreement on all accounts. I would consider myself to be a Progressive Conservative and had been a member of that party. Never took out membership with The Reformers even though I did time in a campaign office once.
Alice Wong was wong on her media event. She was playing to a few constituents and has now rattled the Green Tea teacups.
Complete agreement on pipeline. The Kits Station / Vessel Traffic facility. Dumb and stupid move to close both off to save less than $1 million a year.
Heck I have a picture of myself and The Zalm! I think I may have one of me with The Falconator but can’t remember where it is. Must be between my Kevin Falcon purple T shirt and a green one I got from
Mel Couvelier’s leaership… No wait, maybe it’s near my John Reynolds T shirt..
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‘Brian Mulroney delivered an economic plan.’
By that I take it you mean the largest upward wealth transfer in Canadian history? Or did you mean the gutting of Canada’s manufacturing base?
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As per usual, your comments designed to inflame and propagandize, provide me with much entertainment. Although, it does take me away from serious commenters.
1) The GST was a good idea, but one that didn’t include tax relief. Where is that an upward shift? Your comment is complete horse manure. I’ll continue.
2) NAFTA was a positive initiative that still enjoys great support among Canadians, despite the linguine left, who have actually benefitted. Where was this an upward shift? More idiocy.
3) Mulroney swa great benefit in inflation targeting and crafted policies to encourage the Bank of Canada to lead the way. This was seen as a huge up for consumers and the average Canadian worker. Please explain where this contributed to a massive upward shift? Total insanity.
4) He scarped the devastating National Energy Policy of Pierre Trudeau. Unfortunately, he couldn’t resurrect the thousands of dead from heart attacks or suicides that Trudeau was responsible for.
5) His deficit reduction plan is unprecedented. Considering the nightmare he inherited from Trudeau, Mulroney took an operating deficit of -3% of GDP to a surplus of almost 3.5%. The Mulroney government turned the -3% deficit into a 2.5% surplus before the 1991-92 recession hit. This helped ALL Canadians.
I don’t mind you making comments on this blog.
But it helps when it’s not wrong and simply doctrinaire propaganda. Please don’t waste my time, thank you.
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I never took you for a Mulroney apologist: I thought you were better than that
Mulroney was PM from 1984 to 1993.
Now lets look at when income inequality in Canada started to accelerate:
[.png] Income Share of the top 1%, 0.1% and 0.01% from Inequality and top income shares in Canada: Recent trends and policy implications
I’ve shown you my numbers, now show me yours please.
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You’re ridiculous.
Your links prove nothing of your original claim.
I gave you specific numbers which ykull chose to ignore. Income gap and inequality was well on the way under Trudeau, but not his fault either.
Besides, you said highest jump, not acceleration.
Perhaps you can stick to one absurd accusation at a time.
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Botticelli,
the people you describe are not what I call Progressive Conservatives. At 63 I can remember when they were around & what they stood for. I am not a P.G. I’ve always been a leftie but I do respect those who were true Progessive Concervatives.
Coleman, Hockstein, stevie slime, vickie toews, none of them are Progressive Conservatives. Most came from another party with a totally different mind set. those people are corporate front men, nothing more. they just got into politics to make sure their favorite corporations got more money & they could force their religious views on others. They are not Progressive Conservatives.
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great post alex.
this gets more and more bizzare.
if they were to do 1 suspension a week it would take 6 moths to complete.
whatt will happen ios a lot of them will say screw it and quit.
just think if cummins were premier and the board the cabinet he would lose a lot of mla’s.
they treat thier own consitution like guideline rather than a rule book
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Thanks, Harry. I sincerely hope you’re enjoying Arizona.
If you’re going through Scottsdale, let me know. My youngest sister lives there with her husband and son.
They’re VERY hospitable folks!
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Isn’t that “Harry Zona”?
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Is it the “John Cummins Party of British Columbia”?
Maybe the “John Cummins needs your $4000.00/ month Party”?
I keep thinking the “Septuagenarian Jesus Cruise line welcomes you to the F.Shettino piloted trip down the toilet bowl”! The main difference between Shettino and Cummins is even Shettino knew enough to leave a sinking ship.
I once put some of my money into a campaign to get an associate to run for civic office, sadly now that my old associate is in office I feel the same as Mr.Pyper. I’ll never attempt to financially back the candidacy of any aspiring politico again.
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And who can blame you?!
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It would seem Cummins hasn’t heard that Lingchi (Death by a thousand cuts) was abolished near the beginning of the 20th Century.
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What a disappointment!
It seems to me that the BC Conservative Party’s ever decreasing political sandbox is being turned into personal fiefdoms. What ever happened to “for the good of the party”?
These guys have as much chance of getting my vote as the Communist Party – but that doesn’t mean I will vote for Christy or Adrian either!
Thanks for exposing them Alex, they truly are a comtemptable lot.
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BC Conservative Party implosion. Sounds like there is not a lot of democracy within that group. Looks like more of a second rate farce, with every press announcement.
Sounds like a rehash of the old boys network, taken to new “laughable” heights, by those whose “ego’s| have long since, been shown for what they are. Waste of time these folks.
Next…..
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Stupid gets even stupider.
http://www.theprovince.com/news/cloaks+daggers+with+conservatives/7387832/story.html
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I expected better from Mr. Smyth.
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Superb piece Alex. Demonstrates that once again the citizens of BC are not worthy of consideration, as far as the thinking at the top end of these political parties goes.
A few months ago, I, like you, had hopes that the BCCP would deliver us from Snooki & Co. Sad to say that isn’t going to happen now. One is as bad as the other, and not worthy of any consideration for votes.
So now we’re left with Dix and ? – a not very palatable situation in a so-called democracy where we should have at least 2 viable choices (don’t mention Greens – I won’t go there). Is there a “None of the Above” on the ballots? – that would probably win a landslide.
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Meanwhile CC was on CTV’s The West Block. I didn’t want a spoil a Sunday morning by watching her.
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here is the higlight from that program
CC states
“Where the debate really needs to happen first and foremost is between the premier of Alberta, the premier of British Columbia and the prime minister of the country,”
so essentially CC STILL does not understand that the government of Alberta has no place at a table to discuss First Nations rights in BC, environmental concerns in BC and any financial arrangment between the BC government and a PRIVATE BUSINESS venture in BC.
last time i heard, it was Enbridge that wants to build a pipeline in BC… not Alberta. (obviously Alberta will benefit, but they are not building it)
so why exactly does CC keep insisting Alberta be involved in discussions about a private business venture in BC?
and why does she keep excluding the company that actually wants to build the pipeline from her comments?
oh she then went on to say she had championed an anti bullying campaign on radio for 5 years…….. which is odd as she was only at cknw for 3 years and 4 months……….
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I watched. Tom Clark predictably lobbed softball questions, but his hardest pitch was to ask her why the Leg wasn’t in session given the importance of the pipeline debate. Christy replied that the legislature wasn’t really important now, that the REAL debate had to first take place between her, Redford, and the PM.
Kinda lets you know where we citizens stand in the grand scheme going on in CC’s mind.
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Tom Clark is a buffoon and a whiny pseudo-journalist. All style, no substance.
It’s exactly why Christy Clark loves appearing on his show. They can regale each other with complete baloney while they play with each other’s poo.
(It’s also why the incredible Lisa LaFlamme was promoted to the anchor desk instead of Tom. CTV brass got that one right.)
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Not something to watch just after eating brunch
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Maybe John should follow BC Christy’s lead and become BC Cummins. Then if we get BC Dix we could have BC’s Dix, Cummins in… I mean and Christy.
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So not a well person!
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“The BC Conservative board met on Thursday night last, to commiserate over the growing revolt against their feckless and mortally wounded leader John Cummins…”
JC has long lost his “feck!”
I wonder if he ever had any “feck” to begin with!
Maybe he’s hoping for his movie: “How JC Got His Feck Back!”
Meh!
JC – time for you to “feck off!”
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“feckless and mortally wounded leader”
No – I’m pretty sure he’s fecked….
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Speaking of feckless, Suzanne Anton announced she’ll be running for the BC Liberal party in Vancouver-Quilchena. She’s failed on so many levels, why not this one?
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The sure joke of the week.
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Andrew Wilkinson will crush her.
I look forward to seeing the CityCaucus dream team running her nomination campaign (into the ground).
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She’ll get slaughtered.
And I can confirm that both Klassen and Fontaine are ridng shotgun.
Same idiots.
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Had to watch the interview Tom Clark did with Christy Clark on The West Block to see whether her bafflegab would continue, this time to a national audience. And guess what, sure enough it did!
Tom asked her if the BC legislature should not be sitting to debate such a critical issue as Northern Gateway. Christy says the legislature is not the place for debate, it should be between her, Alberta and Ottawa. Apparently it is not up for debate among the people of BC or their representatives in the legislature.
As well, Clark says she, Redford and Harper need to sit down “To see how this is going to work.” Direct quote. To see how what is going to work Christy? The pipeline project? Didn’t know you were suddenly in favor.
But she also says the project won’t go ahead without BC’s approval, end of story. Hate to pee on your party Dummy, but Harper might have something to say about that.
She was in fine Christy form: ….uh, uh, uh, but you know what?
Friggin hopeless.
Happy Sunday, y’all!!
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Sounds like I made the right decision to skip watching her Doofusness.
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A few legal battles and a few months of Munster’s salary, and the Cons won’t even have money for election signs.
Nobody with any business acumen would run an organization like this. Ctrl-Alt-Del.
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G*d help British Columbia from the people acting in the Creator’s Name…
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The problem with expelling one dissident at a time is that even IF its possible according to the constitution of the party, and the party DOES actually survive the trauma, the God Squad will still be in control. Not one bloody MLA will sit for the BC CP in the house until there is a change in leadership. I honestly cannot believe the electorate would vote for these dinosaurs.
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Thanks for the insights, Alex. For a feud so supposedly out in the open there has been precious little MSM reporting of #BCCP ‘s insider machinations. The unnamed game . . . .
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Who cares. We have some of the worst political leaders in the country.
I feel Adrain will do ok for a bit but was hoping we could get conservatives in as defense/opposition.
I guess you have to ask… What do you want..
and Do you Care?
it is still an election to lose. There will be no winners again this time.
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It’s death by a thousand self-inflicted cuts. I thought the Fibs had a lock on committing political suicide, but even they could learn a few lessons from the BCCP. Not being on the BCCP’s side of the political spectrum by a long shot, I find the whole thing quite amusing. Considering their looming political extinction, I also find it mind-boggling that anyone cares.
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I am so happy to not have watched the litle interview. I wasn’t feeling all that well to begin with. So Christie thinks the “real” conversation is between her, Harper, & Redford. Amazing. She seems to have forgotten Harper is only the P.M. in Canada, there is still the small matter of a House of Commons. Alberta does have a legislature as does B.C.
I would suggest dear god leader cummins may be in for a surprize because although they are going after one dissent member at a time it is still part of one organized action. Some smart lawyer may make a very nice arguement it still is the same duck they started out with. Would some nice rich person just give dear god leader cummins $4K a month so he will go away, o.k. make it $4K & $100 a month for him to go away. I think his type likes to go to the highest bidder.
This isn’t China yet, dear leader christie. The opposition parties in Canada are legally constituted organizations, which have a role to play in what is still a democracy. During all of this dear leader christie still hasn’t grasped the concept of democracy, but then neither has dear god like leader john cummins. Is it something in the water here?
I still think we should stop dear leader christie’s salary until she reports to work in the legislature.
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I have a thought (some say it happens for me once in a while). Since I do not get paid if I do not show up to work, why not make this the same for government?
The Liberals are so quick to create legislation, why not create some on the MINIMUM number of days which the legistature sits? Why not pay the MLAs only for the days they are actually in the legislature? So if the required number of days to sit is 100 for the year, then their $100,000 salary divided by 100 days means that they are paid $1000/day. This way if Christy only wants to have the house sit for 48 days this year, the MLAs only get $48,000. In this example the province would save almost $4.5 million this year alone!
Just a suggestion to help Christy balance the books.
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I actually had that exact discussion with someone a few weeks ago.
I couldnt agree more. Or Senators that don’t show up, etc. Same thing.
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Sounds like a good deal to me. I have to wonder if the premier skipped that class on democracy.
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They should’t be paid for days meeting with constituents?
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That may be only the tip of the savings. How many support staff could be eliminated if they were only employed when the Legislature was actually in session? We are not only paying taxes to support our MLAs but a whole lot more for the support staff that may or may not be needed in the first place. The bureaucracy is like a family tree on steroids.
I find it absolutely ludicrous for the Provincial Government to order audits of municipal governments and various Provincial Crown Corporations while their own bailiwick operates with a spare no expense mentality. I see that in the ever revolving door known as the Premier’s Office Sarah The Gum has been reassigned while the taxpayer will be forced to cough up more cash to pay for her replacement.
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Now, you hush up.
Wrigley’s is one of my biggest sponsors.
Along with Trojan.
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So why has Sarah “the Gum” Macintyre, resigned her position??, any intel Alex?
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Yes, shortly…
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Because Pammie broke Sarah’s pinky-nail in their Friday night pillow fight. I am sure big sister Chrissy will kiss it better for her with a nice golden parachute to make those big tears go away!
Another sleepover that us taxpayers are on the ‘hook’ for.
BTW, Alex … any chance Sarah was Boessenkool’s main ‘squeeze’?
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Janos,
that questions is, in my opinion, not appropriate. We want to stick to politics & the problems this province is facing. Who sleeps with whom & how is no one’s business unless it impacts on how they do their job.
There is no evidence Sarah was Boessenkool’s main “squeeze” . Just by asking the question you may well raise a debate which is a waste of time & cause pain to Boeseenkools family. He does have a wife & kids, etc.
Get your mind back on business of politics! (a confirmed leftie)
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so by your thinking….no one should ever ask a question?
and….shouldnt his family be “pained”….he displays drunken dirtbag behaviour….but you want to hide it……. Interesting…….
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eaf .. I guess you are so farrrrr left that you have lost the appreciation for sarcasm and humility. Forgive me, kind person, but this whole matter is so friggin much a joke if not a soap opera .. I was just taking a cheap shot at crap governance!! After all, most of you want Alex to expose every tidbit on these fools to hold them accountable, so as far as I am concerned .. if they step up on the ‘stage’, then I am justified in heckling them. My taxes goes to pay her wages and since I am not getting any value out of her, at least I can have some entertainment value. I do appreciate the moral high ground, but not if it is at the cost of putting and keeping my head in the sand because I am told to do so!! And if does please you .. I do consider myself center based but my junk does slightly hang to the left. And in the same breath, I do respect the slightly-rights because I do believe in opposition because it counteracts extremism. So in closing, dear fellow AGT follower .. thanks for your comment .. I appreciate your view and I enjoy your usual postings!
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She took a position in the GPC formally now as Government PAB. Just a recent name change. Another cushy meaningless manage the message job. Stop managing the message and provide good governance. Unfortunately cc learned from the best of them and knows no different. Remember, it’s who you hang with.
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I had to mop myself up after reading this TC quote
“MacIntyre was unavailable for comment.”
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Glad you didn’t ask for help.
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I just picked up this BCCP info on Facebook!
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=ab5lnihab&v=001rD-jOQuHnZ5mWjIRBPhzTP1bQJwfSrkN4C_zdeVZX1-kP3jjnBpjPBJsZKMEi6wUufvJv1lFZdLuiW4EwrZUhpMRuV6Hz_ts0g1AYpOQJxVLUYwenD9vBS8Ud3C6AJ37
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Yes, it’s been all over the news today.
It’s just Al Siebring confirming what everybody already knew about him.
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the BC Con party is dead and Cummins has shown that he is a joke and can’t lead a boy scout troop let alone a provincial party
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I’m so confused…
Ben Besler @BenBesler
A very drunk regional director #bccp http://www.burnabynow.com/news/Conservative+Party+dissidents+disciplined/7392924/story.html …
21m Milan Kljajic @KljajicMilan
@BenBesler Isn’t the drunk regional director seeking the nomination in Burnaby North with the “dissident” Prez.
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Dear heart, why are you confused?
It’s exactly yhe news I broke yesterday.
The media are only catching up. Give it some time. LOL!
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Yep, Alex, you did a terrific job. Now, what do you think:
According to Al Siebring the dark side is sending letters to political “opportunists”. Why it is not a personal delivery? Surely by using a bailiff services they would not jeopardize Dear Leader’s October paycheck. Or they would?
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I was confused about the “drunk” comment :/
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Wayne Markland.
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Drunk with power, or just drunk on alcohol?
Either way, it prevents clarity or rational thought.
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With the Liberal Premier in Ontario resigning could it be contagious to reach Victoria next.
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One lives in hope.
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Greener pastures CC … go east.
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I too saw the West Block Interview. OMG!!!
How utterly embarrassing! The only thing that gave me any solice was I kept repeating to myself “she was never elected…she was never elected…
Uhhh. Christy. Isnt your dear people of this wonderful province who should decide about a pipeline??!!
Who knew Crusty’s ” Job Action Plan” meant bringing in 2500 chinese workers to BC. Thats what all those lavish trips to China were for Christy! Wasnt falcon going to send up all those Surrey lay-abouts to do that work??!!
http://thetyee.ca/News/2012/10/15/China-Temp-Miners/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=151012
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Strike up the band – BCCP theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SlEKTqRqsI
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Love that one. Thank you
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The one and only! GREAT gee-tar, man!!
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MEMO FROM HEAD OFFICE
ATTN: ALL POTENTIAL FUTURE BCCP VOLUNTEERS AND DONORS
F^&^ you.
Sincerely,
Al S.
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ROTFLMFAO
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The Primers office must be a real Dog’s Breakfast, people coming and going. Being hired being fired or just quitting. Is this a reflection on CC and the way she runs the office. Or is it the whole bunch of them just unqualified unorganized, or is just a F#@king mess in there?
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Something tells me it is: E.) All The Above……
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If Sarah qualifies for severence pay she should be paid in Wrigley’s. Or does she chew bubble gum?
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LOL!!!
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Flee-ers?
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She holds way too many secrets to kick her out the door.
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Yes, but then one must ask the question.. humm
Tania Jarzebiak @taniajarzebiak
@theprovince @cassidyolivier Has anyone asked how she landed a job in GCPE, given the public sector hiring freeze? #bcpoli
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Here’s a classic example of how people feel about all the changes of personnel in Clark’s office;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng
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Here we go – newspapers across Canada trying the pay to read online. They may have to provide better content. Most of their stories are drivel, why would I pay. I wonder if they will be replacing the editors with real news people.
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Breaking News – Sarah The Gum: Former Liberal Communications Director categorically shifted to position of “media liaison” for Legislative Press Gallery ~ just one question Keith Baldrey: You feeling lucky punk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMM-ZQvLPt0
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C’mon…be good.
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OK……….. this is somewhat off the record as our youngest daughter is in her third year at the University of Victoria studying political science towards a law degree.
She can’t understand why I keep laughing.
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You should have her come to one of my speeches.
She’ll feel better about her career and she’ll laugh too!
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She would love to meet you.
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well sparky, you not only read alex but also comment here all the time.
i dont even have to think about it, i am sure your daughter has solid beleifs. it does not matter if those beleifs are to the left or right of the political spectrum… someone entering BC politics that has morals and ethics entering political arena is what we need.
what most of us would not give for a government that actually had a plan and vision.. even if we disagreed with it… rather than a cheerleader who rules by reacting to public opinion polls.
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Total and complete agreement.
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There is only one way out of the situation for Cummins and the dissidents. It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, if they continue to fight it’s over for them.
Cummins should call a leadership race and, if he wants, he can run. The dissidents can find someone to run against him if they wish. Both sides then must make a pact that, once the leadership process is finished, everyone is on the same team. A leadership race would also help keep them in the spotlight for positive reasons, as people would be talking about policy initiatives instead of in-fighting.
I think all of the shenanigans with the BC Cons has made one thing abundantly clear to everyone…the only party with the moral authority to govern next term is the NDP. You would have to be a blatant partisanr to ignore the divisive and corrupt politics of the BC Liberals over the last decade, especially during this last term. The BC Cons bring the same ‘trickle-down economics’ ideology as the BC Libs, coupled with their out-of-touch and regressive social policies.
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As you all know, I’m not ever going to be voting NDP, out of philosophical reflection, but it’s abundantly, if not painfully clear: Adrian and his caucus are the only ones left with the moral authority to govern.
And that’s saying something.
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pretty damn sad when an admitted forger of documents holds the moral high ground.
and hey alex… you could always move to delta so you could vote for an independant.
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I know. But I have to tell the truth. In comparison with the others, Adrian comes out smelling like a rose. Pathetic as it may be, the BC Liberal brand is dead as a door nail.
It’s over.
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well the ndp winning the 2013 election has pretty much been a foregone conclusion for over a year now…probably longer.
that give the BCCP until 2017 to get it together, have a leader people can support and get some money and organization going.
i sure hope that happens, it would be a tragedy for all people of BC if tthe liberals are allowed to continue to exist after what tehy have done the last 12 years or so.
of course if there is one thing the liberals know how to do, it is lie… especially about their own record and the ndp’s… so you never know, they may be back if the msm continues to support them.
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I always thought Mike Harcourt was on the high moral ground too. When the shit flew he did the right thing and stepped aside immediately. Then along came Gordon Campbell. Busted for DUI in Hawaii. The poster boy for pissed drunk, behind the wheel Howlies in all of the Islands schools{never mentioned by the MSM} here. Did Campbell do the right thing and step aside? Not a chance. As a matter of fact, Harper rewarded him for being deceitful and selling us out.
I am not afraid of this N.D.P. government in waiting at all.
There will be clarity and honesty for a change.
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I agree that Gordon’s most serious indiscretion was a fireable offence. He should have resigned immediately.
But he needed to stay to see BC Rail and other matters through.
You will know, as I have oft repeated, that the PM needed to be convinced, several times, that appointing Gord to London was the right thing to do. In fact, I’m told as recently as two days ago, that, hindsight being 20/20, the appointment wouldn’t have happened.
It was spearheaded by a very prominent downtown Vancouver lawyer.
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“It was spearheaded by a very prominent downtown Vancouver lawyer.”
Suzanne Anton?
Couldn’t resist
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No! She’s not a lawyer. She hasn’t practiced in years. Had an unremarkable turn as a prosecutor but that’s it.
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I know, I was just kidding; anything Anton has touched has been unremarkable – Vancouver City Council, her botched run for Vancouver Mayor – and now the BC Liberal party in Vancouver-Quilchena.
What timing! What insight! If she were to practice law in the private sector, she’d starve to death.
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In a dream, Christy Clark finds herself inspired by Dalton McGuinty’s resignation and decides to follow suit.
Nah, just a dream. As is democracy in a country cursed with our MSM.
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Rumour is McGuinty quit so he could make a run at the Federal Liberal leadership. Maybe someone should be whispering in The Dummy’s ear that she could so beat Justin Trudeau and she should go for it too.
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It appears that the ousting has started already. President Al Siebring has come up with a irrefutable and fair method to determine which members are dissidents and therefore be dealt with in according to the constitution of the BCCP. He is also a believer in transparency and so he has released a video of this process to put to rest any question of his fairness. This video is of Burnaby North President Arianne Eckhardt and the examination of her case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7F2QbhEXNE
Other political parties could learn a thing or two about being fair from President Siebring.
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LOL! That’s too damn funny.
Siebring is such a fool.
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hey alex, wondering if your going to do a piece on the temporary workers that are planned to be brought in to take the jobs CC promised all those mines would create?
also.. anything brewing on why sarah got tossed… and then landed a government job while theres a hiring freeze on?
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It’s included in the piece I’ll be releasing shortly.
A complete disgrace to have workers from anywhere come here.
I guess it’s Christy’s jobs plan: Hire foreign workers.
An Sara is a different story…
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Either McGuinty is up to his armpits in scandals that are about to break, or else he is up to his ass in alligators for his appeasement of the public service unions, or both – likely both. Oh well, perhaps the nightmare is over for Ontariarioans, but they should have seen what he was way back at Caledonia!
I usually find Murphy’s cartoons a little too smarmy for my liking, I must say, but the recent one with Cummins trying to herd cats was hilarious.
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wow larry.
“Either McGuinty is up to his armpits in scandals that are about to break,”
this much is true…. he was trying to bring in 3p projects like BC has… and people there were in the process of finding out how many billions in extra money it would cost like it has here in bc. strangley the people there have realized that 3p projects are a complete rip off of the taxpayer. he also had an agenda for green power that was costing taxpayers huge amounts of money…. gee doesnt that sound like run of the river?
“else he is up to his ass in alligators for his appeasement of the public service unions”
this statement is comical and shows once again that your a right wing nutjob, not a person actually interested in politics or any real discussion. mcguinty has been fighting for months to bring in public sector wage restraint…like BC has for the last 10 years.
your entitled to your opinion larry, your even entitled to post complete lies here.
fortunately people are also entitle to call you the liar you are here as well larry.
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Whiterockjerk – Well the reason he’s looking for public sector wage restraint is because he bought their allegiance over the past 10 years or so. He is without a doubt the worst thing to happen to Ontario since Bob Rae Noticed you didn’t want to talk about his abysmal handling of the Caledonia debacle. This Premier has done what I would have thought impossible; he has made Christie Clark look mediocre.
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Actually, let me step in. McGuinty is Ontario’s second worst premier, ever–behind Rae. His biggest failures were downloading responsibilities on to cities, townships and municipalities. This really killed Ontario’s infrastructure.
And please be respectful of Whiterockj, who is anything but a jerk.
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And I am anything but a liar!
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“or else he is up to his ass in alligators for his appeasement of the public service unions”
funny larry, the leader of the conservative party in ontario was on tv not 30 minutes ago essentially saying wage restraint is something they are willing to work with the liberals on, he just wants it to happen while they are sitting. so the minority liberal government in ontario is in trouble because of something others are willing to work with them on is the cause of their problems?
again larry, reversing the facts of a situation to suit your political views is called lieing.
if the facts offend you larry.. get over it.
if i am a jerk for pointing out the facts to you, i can live with being called a jerk.
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Lieing????? – Yeah well, you’re gonna hafta!
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Mr. Bennett have a seat, the Doctor will be here to see you shortly…..PAGING DR. FREUD, DR. FREUD, STAT!!!!!
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Well, well, Terance Corcoran in this day’s National Post, in a column titled, Mrs. McGuinty on Strike” points out that after nearly a decade of McGuinty’s nannyhood, Ontario has the highest-cost electricity of anywhere in North America! And perhaps you’ve seen the commercials of Dalton and the creepy David Suzuki wandering verdant country trails celebrating pantheistic glories of pagan environmentalism. Windmills of the mind and etc..
Ontario, once Canada’s powerhouse province, now reduced to a “have not” province. If there ever was a time of renewing the topic of western alienation and the prospect of separation, now might be a good it.
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Just like what is happening here with BC Hydro. Liberal may be the brand they trade under, but tools of robber-barons is the true type. Matters not what the political paint job.
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