Did I Tell You the BC Conservatives Are Going Nowhere Fast? Apparently They’ve Arrived at Nowhere…
Like the empty beer bottle that rolls off the lap of a drunk on a street corner and lies aimless, semi-prone on the gutter grill, so too have the BC Conservatives.
And I gather they would prefer you not know…
Why? Well, it’s a sad repetitive process that just seems to grip the loons in the far right. If it’s not the grotesque Westboro Church mantra of ”God hates fags’ then it has to be the granddaddy of all ultra right wing nut job planks: ‘Abortion is Murder’.
God does not hate homosexuals. Not in my mind–or in the mind of any fair-minded individual, who understands that He is a loving God. And it is certainly not written anywhere that abortion is murder. I am very supportive of gay rights and marriage. Although I do not believe every abortion is necessary (a revolving door is tax-paid contraception), the notion that a women should prefer to choose to keep the child and thus make it suffer under conditions that most single moms can attest to, is just plain lunacy. Adoption can be wonderful, yes, but there are certain psychological issues a woman must then face, too.
What’s more lunacy is that on issues that are CLEARLY federal matters, the provincial Conservatives, no relation to the Harperites–who in super conservative circles are (thankfully) considered heretics for their gay marriage vote and refusal to reopen the abortion issue, are wading into areas that in British Columbia will make it impossible for them to survive–never mind thrive.
It’s over for the BC Conservatives. They’re done. Sad but true. They had a chance, but have blown it–and in a province where federal Tory fortunes are sky-high!
And here’s why.
This is a quote from yet another nutter on this mysterious BC Conservative ‘Advisory Group’ led by Randy White. Read the quote carefully.
“By the mid-1960s we were in the midst of a sexual revolution. The feminist movement started a strident campaign to bring women into the 20th century. They wanted vengeance and retribution. A gradual blurring of the sexes occurred that gave young men growing up in many female dominated, single parent homes an identity crisis. This led to a rise in militant homosexuality The things that had been considered improper went looking for a desperate legitimacy.
In my view, no government can make legitimate any behaviour that has for centuries by tradition, custom, faith and the social contract been seen as destructive to family life If this bill passes without the amendments we have suggested, it will be a sad day for Canada and I, for one, would never want to be a part of that kind of country.”
Speechless? Of course you are. This is precisely the kind of unearthly insanity that is the harbinger to an empty ballot box.
The above quote was spoken by a fellow named Reed Elley with respect to the gay marriage legislation, when being hashed out in Ottawa way back when–he was still a Reform MP at the time.
Mr. Elley is a pastor and apparently a giving, loving man, who along with his wife has raised eight children, four of them foster kids–including one native aboriginal and one disabled. The Elleys have fostered over 150 children–no small feat.
So how on God’s green orb does a man with that kind of compassion speak such utter rubbish? Well, it’s easy for weak minds. Somewhere in the doctrinaire right, just like with the doctrinaire left, they don’t practice what they (in Mr. Elley’s case, literally) preach.
And this is the kind of ADVICE the BC Conservatives are seeking? They want to be our government. And they have another group infesting them wanting to offer thumbs-up to the HST???
Not a chance. If you’ve got a membership, tear it up. If you’re giving them money, stop! The BC Conservatives are entirely unworthy of any support when they have such far right loons running the ship.
Stick a fork in ‘em. They’re done.
They might as well be taking advice from Pat Robertson.
When I wrote that the BC Conservatives were going nowhere fast, I never imagined they’d arrive at nowhere so quickly.

True, and very sad. We’re left with a choice between a bunch of criminals and a bunch of ‘nanny-state’ incompetents. The Right out here just can’t seem to get it together & keep the extremists out.
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You said it pal.
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The last time that the BC Conservatives elected anyone during a general election was Dr. Scott Wallace in 1975 – that’s 35 years ago! The last time they had any impact was under Vic Stephens during the 1979 general election where they only received a marginal 5.06% of the vote (and that’s the highest to date). That’s when they were still moderate “Progressive Conservatives”.
The current incarnation of the BC Conservatives are more from the loony Christian religious right – the Unity Party, Christian Heritage Party types. We all know where the political fortunes for that type of social conservatism will lead. Just ask Bill Vander Zalm.
With ueber right-wing politico Randy White involved in that party look forward to more of the same lunacy. And they are still having routine resignations from within. Not a very stable organization. Look for them to run more candidates in 2011 but will they have an impact? Perhaps, perhaps not, in some interior ridings.
Interestingly enough, they did take as many votes from the NDP as they did from the Liberals, when one looks at the 2009 v. 2005 races that they contested.
When Jack Weisgerber was at the helm of the BC Reform Party, they were at least considered a populist, small “c” conservative alternative without any of that religious fundamentalist baggage.
But not these guys. And it will be interesting to see who they will elect as leader – will he lead them to salvation?
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Okay, that’s hysterical! Lead them to salvation…
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I know in the past you have suggested Carole Taylor or Dianne Watts as the only ones who might be able to salvage the Liberal Brand in BC. I’d like to throw another name into the mix although the likelihood of this occurring is small. Dr. Keith Martin is a very popular MP on the Island. Of course, he is currently in the Federal Liberal Party, but he did once run for the leadership of the Reform Party of Canada and served as both a Reform and Alliance MP. He may just be the sort of moderate right-winger who could be successful. He is not in any way tainted by the existing BC Liberal Government, and I believe he would be a very credible leader and Premier. He is extremely well-spoken, very accessible and capable. Just imagine a debate between Dr. Martin and Carole James — the ref would have to stop the fight in the first round. Yes it is a very unlikely scenario, but it would be, in my view a very welcome one.
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Interesting…very interesting…it’s not the first time I’ve heard about this. Although, Martin’s adherence to global warming theocracy might rule him out for me.
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I’m not sure I would call Martin a moderate right winger. I think he might be too Liberal to be a BC Liberal, if you know what I mean. He does seem to be a clear minded, credible politician though, and would certainly be a great alternative to who we have now, and to who we stand to get! Does he have enough of a reputation throughout the province to be considered as Premier?
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Well, that’s the problem right there. He is too much a Liberal and has taken some very silly positions on all sorts of matters, most particularly the boat people, who should have never been accepted and already be gone. He asked for compassion. how much compassion do you think he’d get on the shores of the Tamil Tigers?
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I do believe the answer is to clean up the current BC Liberals from the Top Down. Reality is though none of the parties will get rid of the HST including any new leader the BCL’s might had.
One way out of the dilemma might be to tweak the HST by taking some or all restaurant meals off the list as well as some other items or bringing the PST down to 5% and make the HST an even 10%.
Before Harper lowered the GST there was a 7% tax on restaurant meals so it wouldn’t be a ton of difference.
Definitely some backroom strategizing is needed as we cannot have left wing incompetents running the economy right now. Prime example of what happens is how the US is tackling economic problems under BO
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Yup! I like it!
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Im not sure the BC Liberals can be trusted for a few generations now teh last 48 hours have shown us they are either completely inept or sociopathic liars from top to bottom id vote Rhino first bring them back at least id expect poor planning and bad results but it wouldnt be done on purpose.
what a damn mess the entire right and right center has become .
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I’m afraid you might be correct.
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How can you say “left wing incompetants” when the recent financial geniuses just blew billions of dollars? Is there no end to your blind faith?
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Actually, if you’ve read my posts on the BC LIberals, I have been equally critical of their financial record. Although, the center-right has a much better record than the center-left in managing the economy. From a philosophical perspective, I’m not a fan of anything related to command economic principles. The NDP, for the most part, are.
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